it's not super news but state senator john kerry, un ambassador susan rice. i asked the president whether or not he felt the republican criticisms and attacks on susan rice has sort of boxed him in a corner, make it so that he looks weak if he doesn't go ahead and nominate her. he tried to brush that aside but said, sang her praises and also said he hasn't made an announcement yet. so there's a bit of a trying to shuffle positions around here because one decision, if you name susan rice secretary of state then that opens the door, officials are saying, you could see kerry as defense secretary or he could bring in republican former senator chuck hagel is also a name for secretary and also potentially a name for c.i.a. as well. >> rose: in term of the treasury the name you most frequently higher is the chief of staff jack lou. is that the name you're hearing the most. >> that's the name we're hearing but it gets calculated because jack lou is a principal negotiator in the fiscal cliff talks. he was a negotiator back in the debt limit talks back in the summer of